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City’s population under 20,000

Diane Crocker
Published on February 9, 2012
Published on February 8, 2012
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Number of new homes shows people still want to live here, says mayor

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Statistics Canada , Canadian National Railways , Corner Brook , Pasadena , Deer Lake

CORNER BROOK — In 1976, the Town’s and Cities, Atlantic Edition listed the population of the City of Corner Brook at 32,000.

On Wednesday Statistics Canada’s 2011 census data put the city’s population at 19,886. That number represents a one per cent drop over the 2006 figure of 20,083. Fifty years before that data collected by the Canadian National Railways put the population of the city at 23,223.

Hearing that the city’s population had dropped was disappointing for Mayor Neville Greeley.

“I was certainly disappointed to see the numbers had dropped below 20,000, but given the demographic of the area, I’m not totally surprised,” he said Wednesday afternoon.

Greeley said the biggest reason for the drop has to do with declining birth rates. Large families were once common and now people are waiting longer to have children and the norm tends to be just one or two.

But on a positive note, Greeley said city data shows the number of businesses in Corner Brook is steadily increasing. He said this is something the census data doesn’t show.

And even though the population of the city has dropped by 197 in five years, 150 more homes have been built here.

“It still tells me that people still want to come and build a home here and live here,” said Greeley.

“We’re always trying to create a friendly environment in the city for people who want to raise a family.”

To do that the mayor said the city has several plans for opening up land at various stages of development. He noted that not all of the land currently open for development has been sold, so the decision to move to areas outside of the city doesn’t really have to do with a lack of land.

In areas like Pasadena it may have to do with the fact the land is flat and the mill rate is cheaper.

Greeley said a large part of the working population living in Pasadena commute to Deer Lake and Corner Brook to work.

“So Pasadena doesn’t have to provide the same infrastructure for its residents,” said Greeley.

He said residents from Pasadena and other areas come into the city to use high-ticket items, like sports facilities, but their taxes do not go to support that.

Looking at it from a regional perspective, Greeley said some areas like Steady Brook also saw a decrease in population, while others like Mount Moriah and Massey Drive increased.

“So really, I mean that’s all part of the greater Corner Brook area and some people are choosing to live close to the city and to conduct their business here and live outside.”

Greeley wasn’t concerned the population numbers would have a negative effect on the city when it comes to the funding formula used to allocate provincial capital works money.

“No, because our numbers would have to change by thousands in order to change our position with capital works and the funding formula there. There’s no danger in that happening.”

Meanwhile, Massey Drive Mayor Gord Davis believes the census numbers don’t really give an accurate count.

The town’s population is listed as increasing by 20.7 per cent, but Davis said it’s more than that.

He said there are more people living in his town than the 1,412 Statistics Canada says there are.

Massey Drive is one of the places that has become attractive to people who want to be near the amenities a city offers, but without living in a city.

Davis said the town’s slogan is “Country Living at It’s Best.”

“And that’s exactly what it is ... and why we’re growing,” he said.

“Our snow clearing is next to none. The biggest thing for people around this area, where we’re basically a snowbelt, is being able to get back and forth to work.”

He described the snow clearing in town as “immaculate.”

Another draw is the town’s housing developments.

He said the developments are nice, are either on snowmobile trails or have easy access to snowmobile and walking trails.

Davis said Massey Drive doesn’t really have to do anything to promote itself.

“Everybody just comes.”

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    Fred Fudge
    - March 5, 2012 at 12:11:32

    I have a video that I took in 1986 , ( year after the Royals won the Allan Cup) I took a picture of it that shows a sign at the entrance to Corner Brook. Its says Welcome to Corner Brook Hub of the province, population 30,000. Now 26 years later we have a population of 19,886 , with an even smaller tax base . Hey don't worry about our tax base , we have the best City Hall this side of Montreal, councillors with ipads/iphones , a water treatment plant that may surpass Muskrat Falls in cost by the time they get around to it. WE will be paying the highest taxes with the highest nunber of seniors in the Malls trying to keep warm.

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    kp
    - February 10, 2012 at 14:52:52

    It really is amazing! I left home 32 years ago when the population was over 30,000 people. Now there are only 20,000 and apparently most of them are Qualipu Indians!!!!

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    Edward Smith
    - February 9, 2012 at 14:31:40

    I contacted Stats Can a few years ago to get up-to-date data for the City of Corner Brook but was told that there are no population numbers availabe for the City -- at least none is gathered in the census. They do gather population data for the Greater Corner Brook area covering Lark Harbour to Cox's Cove (including Corner Brook), and they refer to that data as the population number for Corner Brook. It would be interesting to find out where Ms Crocker came up with the figure of 23,000 if she is referring specifically to the City of Corner Brook proper. On other issues, I have met numerous people who moved to the city but were given the cold shoulder when joining committees and service groups as mentioned by other readers. It appears there are a lot of close-minded people in the city who adopt a you're-not-from-here attitude toward people moving in. Finally, with the closure of Corner Brook Pulp and Paper on the horizon and no economic back up plan in place we will become a retirement community while places like Pinchgut Lake will soon be applying for status as a town or city as residents -- including young couples and seniors --attempt to evade taxes and the constant bad press generated by City Council... Truly sad to see our city -- with so much history and so many success stories -- deteriorate back to a village.....

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      Admin.
      - February 9, 2012 at 17:18:15

      "It would be interesting to find out where Ms Crocker came up with the figure of 23,000 if she is referring specifically to the City of Corner Brook proper..." In the second line: Fifty years before that data collected by the Canadian National Railways put the population of the city at 23,223. Happy reading.

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      Mark
      - February 10, 2012 at 18:26:13

      Admin - you can find the data right here: http://url.ie/e483/p

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      Rod Lyver
      - February 11, 2012 at 12:38:26

      Edward Smith, as is the norm the majority of your comments are doom and gloom. If this place is so bad to be in why even stay? If you have personally tried to join volunteer with groups and been refused that’s a new one to me. People with a positive forward thinking attitude and a willingness to contribute to society through volunteering are always welcome so what’s the problem? I have been a member of dozens of volunteer groups and they have always been looking for new members. Please be advised; negativity is not welcome, constructive criticisms always.

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    Natasha Young
    - February 9, 2012 at 12:24:03

    I can't disagree. I would rather live out of town than in town. The crime rate for B&Es are pretty high, and the cost of living when renting is extremely high. Not everyone can get a mortgage and not everyone wants one, but when it comes to paying high rent like 1100 per month, thats ridiculous. The people here are not that friendly. I've lived in Pasadena for a year and the people there would smile and stop to chat to welcome you into their neighbourhood, and as for Massey Drive, I would move back in a flash. I love the scenery and the fact that its not to far from ammenities. Most of the people there are fairly friendly and theres lots to do there with out burning the gas in the verchiels to get to the snow trails or alking trails. think the rent for rental places should not exceed 900 for a 3 bdrm house and should be at least 450 for a 2 bdrm apartment. When it comes to over 3 bdrms, then well thats diferent. More rooms, and therefore it should go to 1000 to 1100. The prices are way to high. Thats another reason why people are in dept and are struggling with the increase of the neccessities thats need to live ex power, food, vechiel (especially with kids). Maybe if the prices were lowered, (goes for buying houses as well) people would want to come here to live and maybe even stay here. Some CB people walk around like theres no one better. That would turn people away aswell. Something to think about huh?

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    Dennis
    - February 9, 2012 at 10:24:08

    The good, the bad and the ugly re. Corner Brook census #'s....the good: towns that have lost paper mills in recent times are thriving: Stephenville, Grand Falls; the bad: new people moving to the area appear to be choosing to live outside the City boundaries; and, the ugly, The City continuing to ignore the possible reasons for population declines inside the City boundaries (and therefore figuring out how to do something about it).

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    Shawn
    - February 9, 2012 at 10:19:55

    The population is on a steady decline acording to the census statistics. Quite drasticly since 1976. All the while, since 1976 there has been a huge increase in the number of houses as well as the number of rentals, yet there is still a fairly large housing problem within our community. Something here doesn't add up. Mr Mayor says the number of businesses are increasing. I wonder if he has taken into account the number of business that fail and close their doors here each year, or the number of business that never get a chance because of the backward thinking of council. I'd like to see some numbers that would reflect this trend rather than take his word for it. At this stage, his word means nothing to most of the city.

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    Geez Whiz
    - February 9, 2012 at 09:23:45

    Corner Brook is not an attractive place to live. Before I moved to CB, over a decade ago, I was warned about the clique mentality of the city. The people from outside CB are typical friendly NLers but the people from CB have some strange attitude towards people that were not born here. It really puts people off and hurts to attract new citizens. Other deterrents would be the high cost of housing (too high for a city of this size), no entertainment, minimal parks, no significant festivals, high tax rates, poor roads, no family doctors, and the people from CB do not support CB. The city needs to conduct a major study to find out why people prefer to live elsewhere. Perhaps other posters can provide their opinions and ideas.

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      Ralph George
      - February 9, 2012 at 10:21:51

      I think you hit the nail on the head. I've tried living in Corner Brook 3 times in the past 10 years and at the end of the day its just not worth it. Poor services, a council that does little to encourage growth, and the people are often not friendly to deal with. I've been a student there and now work in the city but commute to and from, and it works just fine.

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      Jay Wall
      - February 10, 2012 at 17:16:04

      I have to disagree with some of your points. The high cost of housing is on par with a lot of other places. In fact, it is cheaper than some smaller communities. With that being said, I do not disagree that it is high. As in term of no entertainment, when was the last time you actually went to a movie theatre, or to the Arts and Culture, Grenfell Campus, or a local venue (such as a bar) to take in such entertainment. Your own answer (and this isn't directed to you, but to all who read this) may demonstrate the lack of support for their own. Minimal parks? We have a huge park in the middle of Corner Brook. And there are various parks throughout it. You should definitely try checking out the Pipeline Trail. Amazing views and great for hiking in the summer and snowshoeing in the winter. There's tons of festivals around. Some are in other communities, but one of my favourite times of the year is the Winter Carnival. So clearly, there is at least one significant festival. At the end of the way, what does it matter about roads and taxes if you can enjoy clean air, clear skies and amazing views. I lived away for 5 years and it was the worst 5 years of my life. I agree there needs to be improvements, but what community doesn't? If you look at something and call it crap, then you will believe it is. But if you actually get out there and start becoming part of the community and making it better, well then, that's when you can have your say. :)

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