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Tension soars as mill unions vote

Members of the CEP Local 242 union enter Club 64 for a meeting and to vote Thursday, June 21, 2012 on the contract offered to them by Corner Brook Pulp and Paper last week. Geraldine Brophy

Members of the CEP Local 242 union enter Club 64 for a meeting and to vote Thursday, June 21, 2012 on the contract offered to them by Corner Brook Pulp and Paper last week.

Gary Kean
Published on June 22, 2012
Published on June 21, 2012
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International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers , Kruger Inc. , Local 242 , CORNER BROOK , Western Star

CORNER BROOK — Vicki Stokes is not sure what the impact of the rejected contract offered to skilled trades workers at Corner Brook Pulp and Paper will have, but she knows she will be saying “no” to the one offered to her.

Stokes, one of the few women employed at the mill, is a member of Local 64 of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers union.

The largest union of the eight under the Corner Brook Pulp and Paper umbrella, Local 64 will be the last of six unions working inside the mill to vote when they make their decisions today.

The two unions outside of the mill — Local 495, which represents Deer Lake Power employees, and Local 60N, which represents woodlands workers — were not among those who were given until today to approve the new contract the company says must be accepted if the operation is to continue.

When Stokes accepted a job at Corner Brook Pulp and Paper's shipping department in 1999, she was told the mill was only hiring people who had completed a three-year pulp and paper industry or related technology course.

“What was said was ‘we will need trained professionals with technology backgrounds to take over as the senior operators’ — that we were the future of the mill,” said Stokes, who completed a bachelor of technology degree through the College of the North Atlantic and the University College of Cape Breton.

Now she is disgusted with the contract being imposed on her and her fellow workers by Kruger Inc., the mill’s parent company. She feels like she has wasted her time and education and that unionized mill workers are “being held responsible for poor management decisions.”

She said working at the mill has been “torture” with the tinged atmosphere there lately. She cannot justify working there for less, as is proposed in the contracts all of the unions have had to consider this past week.

“I never thought I was lucky to get a job there,” she said. “I considered them lucky to have people like me and my co-workers.”

The Western Star has learned some of the details of what the unions have been offered. It involves concessions such as a 10 per cent wage reduction from the last collective agreement that came into effect in June 1, 2008.

There will be no retroactive wage increases for the last three years, but a one per cent increase going back to June 1 of this year and another 1.5 per cent hike as of June 1, 2013.

The 10 per cent wage deferral agreement signed by all eight unions back in February 2010 will remain in effect with the new contract. That was essentially a loan to the company from the unions which will only be repaid if the company can return to profitability.

The contract will also include different pay rates for newer workers. Anyone with less than 1,500 hours punched or less will receive 70 per cent of the negotiated rate for their job classification. Those with between 1,501 and 3,000 hours of employment will get 80 per cent, those with 3,001 to 4,500 hours  will receive 90 per cent and only those who have worked 4,501 hours or more will get the full rate.

The company also wants a joint committee formed to come up with ways to find another four per cent savings in labour costs.

“These additional measures will be implemented no later than 90 days after date of ratification or earlier if agreed between the parties,” states the contract offer to the unions.

There are also concessions affecting pensions and benefits.

On Wednesday, Lodge 1567 of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers voted to reject the offer made to their local, which represents skilled trades workers such as welders, millwrights and machinists.

On Thursday, votes were conducted by the five other CEP unions, including the Local 242 papermakers union, the Local 96 electricians union and Local 57N and Local 58, which respectively represent office staff and security.

While the IAMAW announced the results of its voting moments after it was done, the CEP unions have all agreed not to make public how they have voted until Local 64 finishes voting. That is not expected to conclude until late tonight.

Corner Brook Mayor Neville Greeley said he was concerned about the first union to vote having rejected their offer and what it might mean for the future of the mill and Corner Brook itself if the other unions follow suit.

He said if mill workers think they can find a better life someplace else, then they should have voted in favour of the deal and then left of their own accord.

“That’s a personal choice that an individual would have to make, making a decision as to what’s in their and their family’s best interest,” said Greeley. “What’s in Corner Brook’s best interest is a mill that is operating. If somebody is not prepared to work in the mill for the amount of money that the mill is offering, then accept the offer and leave. At least you would have that choice.

“By not accepting the deal, it looks like they are not going to have a choice and everybody will have to look at leaving.”

On Thursday, Premier Kathy Dunderdale announced that she will be coming to Corner Brook today.

“I just want to be with the people in that part of the province while this is ongoing,” said the premier. “It’s a time of high tension, high stress and concern."

The premier did not wish to make any detailed comment on the situation until all of the voting was completed, but did comment when asked about the rejection of one contract offer by Lodge 1567 of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers on Thursday.

"There's nothing unexpected happening here,” she said. “People on the ground have a very good idea of what people's positions are and so on."

 

 

 

 

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  • Username
    Vic
    - June 23, 2012 at 17:29:08

    Well YEAH! Why else would I work there? Some kinda vendetta against spruce and fir? Talk sense by'

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      just a thought
      - June 25, 2012 at 18:59:20

      Put your Big Girl coveralls on and go peddle your job skills somewhere you will be appreciated by' !!! There must be some place out there you can apply for and obtain work in your field and be successful AND appreciated. Commute back and forth. I am sure "hubby" will want what's best for you. If that means two away and two home...so be it. All the best!

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      Vic
      - June 26, 2012 at 10:17:48

      Heres a thought...... Say that to my face...... As far as big girl coveralls you'll have to ask one of my "sisters" for hers...... Mine will always be little girls........ As for throwing away 40 grand to save this sinkhole? Yeah, I looks just LIKE Dunderdale........ Stop thinking, it must hurt

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    Keiren
    - June 22, 2012 at 21:48:05

    I am not sure how many of you people commenting on the situation at CBPPL realise the pressure this vote puts on all of us workers. I have been employed there since 1980 ,with some lay-offs thrown in between.When I was hired the only qualification was 'A strong back and a weak mind' ,which i was lucky enough to have had both of at the time.(Unfortunately both have gotten weaker since) Over the years the H.R. Department (Human Resources) for those who do not know what H.R. means,decided that they needed higher qualified people to clean floors and wash-up stock (oh and also eventually work their way up to process operators controlling multi-million dollar systems). When I got 'the call' to go work at the mill I was very excited because it was the highest paying job in this area....although we have been surpassed over time by a number of other employers in this area while our rates have gone unchanged and may soon drop. I just hope those people outside the mill don't ever have to make the decisions that we are being forced to make today.....vote yes...and swallow your pride and take a pay cut or vote no....and possibly lose your job and have to leave your home and family to find employment elsewhere. This may be hard for some people to believe but I will support and can understand what ever choice each worker decides to vote for and I hope all of you do also. .

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    Former Mill Worker
    - June 22, 2012 at 21:10:27

    I understand how emotions takeover and tensions run high. I urge all to be respectful of one another. I also urge the Corner Brook population to be understanding of the stresses that the mill employees are under. They have been experiencing cutbacks for the past five years and are now being asked to take further concessions. I do not know the exact details of the most recent contract offer but have been told that the concessions would result in nearly a 30% reduction in take home pay. Would you be able to afford that right now? These people are your neighbours, your friends, and fellow community members and they are no different than you. They just want to be able to earn a living and go on with their lives, but don't want to be taken advantage of. Anyone who poses judgement on these mill workers, who have given their lives to this company, should step back and imagine themselves in the same position. Any person has a right to their own opinion, but no one has right to cast judgement on others. These employees, as individuals, have the right to cast their votes as they feel they should and not one of us has the right to bare judgement.

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    Vic
    - June 22, 2012 at 19:59:27

    And just so u know, I didn't do pulp and paper tech...... I'm not that stupid. I did a bachelors degree In environmental studies wih a minor in business- I guess THAT was a stupid choice hey by! And the other one is sociology with a minor in economics....... U wanna retract ur geeze theirselves Einstein , or do you want to stay looking like a moron. You choose I don't care. I got big brothers Out the yin yang. I really don't care what the little guys say....... I'll put all of that in the screenplay........ I was speaking English but I guess u were listening in DINGBAT! Protest your employees sick benefits much? Go away by, u gives me a pain RIGHT in my arse......... Inbreed

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    Vic
    - June 22, 2012 at 16:10:49

    Laugh it up fuzz ball., x that's precisely what I needed......ima gpnna make loads of money in my routines making fun at you rednecks....why didn't I leave? Because I'm owed about 2" grand and that ain't all about ten percent. I stayed in ur little town because of my "marriage" ..... Guess what though ? If here's no mill, there's no excuse to stay in hillbilly central anymore........ So u figure it out. Yes by I'll vote to give away everything I worked for to save his pityful hole in the ground. Laugh away bay boy....... This townie already got a new job lined up. Put that in ur effin wood chipper...... And when ur done, u jump.........idiot. Apparently we have. Ever met, because you would NEVER be so presumptuous and bold......... Put em back in the holster there moose man, your gun ain't gonna cut it. By the way I am speeding across this otherwise beautiful island to MAKE SURE I vote no......... I'm in Gander with almost 4 hours to spare........ Love ya!

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    James
    - June 22, 2012 at 15:36:45

    "That’s a personal choice that an individual would have to make, making a decision as to what’s in their and their family’s best interest"....so why should a personal choice for ones family have anything to do with what is in the best interest on the City?.....last I checked, the choice to vote was as per the individuals beliefs....your comment tells these worker that they should all vote yes...what happened to freedom?...minus 1 vote for Greeley

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    David
    - June 22, 2012 at 13:25:35

    For once, Greeley actually 'gets it' completely....but the united, close knit "brothers" of the mighty union movement didn't.....there's no explanation for voting as they did...none. Even they wanted to be provactive and selfish, this made no sense, as they could have left of their own accord sometime in the future. Nope..too stupid to think straight, they decided on getting some infamous Newfiie "pound of flesh" out of Kruger, as stupid as that even sounds, and just screwed their fellow workers out pure childish spite. Solidarity forever...Sure thing, comrade doofus.

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    Lebron James
    - June 22, 2012 at 13:20:12

    Just from looking at this article the contract doesnt look that bad. If there is more missing then I am wrong I guess. I'm guessing that 90+ % of the people in the mill have the 4500 hrs so their pay isnt getting effected. Anyone new has to do the same thing as anybody else does who is looking for a job in any industry- decide if you are willing to work for what the pay is whether it is $9 an hour or $22 an hour. If you dont like what they are offering then don't take the job. As far as wasting your time and education, unfortunately YES you did. As a former student worker during the summers I was smart enough to see that the paper industry was going downhill. As you walk around the mill floor and see that there use to be 7 machines and now there are only 2 that should ring a bell in your head that maybe this isnt the best industry to devote your future to. Its not Joe Krugers fault that you wasted your time with that course. Maybe you can start a new course - Typewritter repairs or something else with a grim future. I'm sure anybody working in the mill now with kids who are about the start post high school education would tell their own kids to stay away from the newsprint industry. I hope the contract goes through so I still have friends to visit when I am Corner Brook. Wouldn't be the same not seeing the yard with wood and hearing the whistle.

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      Vic
      - June 22, 2012 at 20:06:14

      You obviously never worked with me or ya'd know I out educate ya......... Really u think a Bachelors degree In env wasn't thinking about my future...... Or taking employment with a company who's impact ON the environment is a bit substantial, yeah, little bit. Students cause the most accidents in the work force. Why? Cuz they got their heads so far up their ass they can't see the employee they just ran over. Go back to s book their daddies boy/girl..... Cuz that's the only way YOU got on there....... Oh yeah and shut up,

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      Vic
      - June 22, 2012 at 20:06:14

      You obviously never worked with me or ya'd know I out educate ya......... Really u think a Bachelors degree In env wasn't thinking about my future...... Or taking employment with a company who's impact ON the environment is a bit substantial, yeah, little bit. Students cause the most accidents in the work force. Why? Cuz they got their heads so far up their ass they can't see the employee they just ran over. Go back to s book their daddies boy/girl..... Cuz that's the only way YOU got on there....... Oh yeah and shut up,

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      Vic
      - June 23, 2012 at 13:03:43

      Yes by, I lost my vote....... Boohoo. What blows is my husband is also still Employed with 24 years paid in. So I am what you would call rotted as I still have to live surrounded by such mean, ugly jealous people. Thankfully I don't live IN Corner Brook, just work there. And you never made a decision to not take a job here. What you meant to say was I couldn't handle it as a Student, it was noticed thereby no job for Dads boy. As for fixing typewriters why don't u ask your mom or your sister to bring one home from work, I wouldn't know what one looks like, which would be sort of pertinent if i have to fix them. Typing 80 words a minute was never really a Priority for me..... Neither was making supper, scrubbing the floors And havin babies......... You just be thankful my otherwise STACKED resume is not going to wind up applying for your job....... Doesn't matter what YOU do, just from your attitude I know I WIN!!!! Nanana....So again my name is Vicki, I work at the mill(for now). If you would Like to personally attack me and/or my intelligence and education I have given you every opportunity to be able To find me. You however, are a coward...... If I was going anonymous I'd say something a lot more hateful than that. Say it to my face......... I dare you. And I'll keep all my brothers caged up til we're done......... If not Shut up. Cuz it ain't pissin me off, it's confirming my belief that there really IS something in the water supply out here....... I've said that for 15 years. I'm starting to have my hypothesis validated.

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    Jeff
    - June 22, 2012 at 12:48:47

    Unfortunately, the comments echoed by Ms. Stokes in this article is exactly why my support of the unions has faltered over the last number of days and weeks. I still support their right to collective bargining, but when the writing is on the wall you really have to stow your sense of entitlement and look at things from a broader perspective. The unions would have done well to tell their members to keep their comments to themselves due to the sensitivity of these negotiations, and the general tension felt in the area at this time. Saying things like "I considered them lucky to have people like me and my co-workers." may be true but really not what people need to hear right now. In this economy saying something like that could do more harm then good and if you were to take the pulse of the citizens of this city (town) I will willing to bet good money that people are tired of the same old-same old self entitled attitude coming from some of the mill workers. I am not saying they are at fault. Obviously blame for this whole situation can be placed squarely on three parties (Kruger, Government and Unions) but it's also up to the said same three parties to stop with the baloney and posturing and get down to real business. Either fix it or don't, either way shut up and get crackin'. To The City (Town) of Corner Brook... this is a wake up call. Drop your isolationist attitude and policies and let's get some other big business set up here. The mill is on the way out and something needs to fill that void.

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    Geeze-Shmeeze
    - June 22, 2012 at 12:43:41

    Hey Mr or Mrs Geeze (whoever you are)...I don't suppose you are one of the people being asked to swallow the unacceptable contract which is being rammed down your throat are you? You have all the answers...you and Mayor Greely. Seems to me that, if nothing else, Kruger spent the workers pension money and now wants them to take pay cuts so he can pay it back...or rather so that they can pay it back for him. That`s why we don`t have private pensions now...they are now governed by pension legislation which prevents the money from being taken out by anyone other than the ones who have paid into it and not until they retire. As for people staying at the Mill...does anyone stay there because they love it? Or do they stay because of the money? Maybe a little of both but, I'd say the "Green" is the major reason. Anyway, Kruger screwed up and now the workers are being asked once again to pay for it. I'm not sure how I would feel if I was asked to choose between a slap in the face or unemployment. Pride is often an impossible thing to swallow...especially a repeat performance. As for the people at that Mill...some of them have as many letters after their name as they have in their name...letters earned from some very expensive post-secondary education that they paid for themselves. For the record, I'm not from the West Coast, nor do I work for CBPPL. I just don't like seeing the hard-working people...having to pay for mistakes made by someone wearing an expensive suit and likely, manicured fingernails.The wages these people make were not just handed over like brochures from a yard sale. They were earned and brought on by performance which led to CBPPL becoming one of if not the most productive paper mills. Quite frankly, if the wages have got too excessive...well that is really just another byproduct of mismangement too isn't it?

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    Ed. A.
    - June 22, 2012 at 12:29:56

    mr. greely i would like to remind you that most people do not get to set their own rate of pay like you and your cronies did. i wonder what you would be paid if someone else had the pleasure of setting your pay scale.

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    Wow
    - June 22, 2012 at 11:33:22

    “I never thought I was lucky to get a job there,” she said. “I considered them lucky to have people like me and my co-workers.” Hope the companies in Alberta as are lucky! I wonder how many of these workers were sponsored through that 3 year program at CNA... just another example of how gov't $$$ subsidized this and other mills in the province.

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    M
    - June 22, 2012 at 10:22:15

    I really like the mayors comments, that's the way the workers should have voted but they didn't! Very interesting to see what takes place tonight! From my personal opinion and first hand info, the new contract that is being offered is not unfair!

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    Bob marley
    - June 22, 2012 at 10:11:41

    Someone might want to tell the mayor that Corner Brook never was and never will be a desirable place to live....... If they quit, they won't be sticking around.......

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    Keith
    - June 22, 2012 at 08:34:19

    I wonder where our Illustrious Premier was when the People of the Province wanted her to speak out on the Rescue Center, Burton Winters,, the closure of the Federal HRC Offices in various parts of the province. I would assume that she is only going out to Corner Brook because she knows her sidekick Tom Marshall will not be running again and she wants another PC to be voted in. This woman should be ashamed of herself for the way she has been mishandling the affairs of the province.

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    geeze
    - June 22, 2012 at 07:32:19

    Well... isn't this just amazing?Another highly paid SKILLED person working in that mill that isn't getting the respect and treatment she deserves.What are they teaching in the trades today???. When I read your comments I almost fell over LAUGHING!!!! Company was LUCKY to get you???? If you felt sooo strongly about your job here why did you stay??? I am sure Kruger could have found someone as knowledgeable as you to fill YOUR shoes.!!! From the sounds of it you probably exposed your co workers with your opinion every chance you got !! Funny you stayed...must be the money hey Vicky!!!Oh if the mill stays I guess we can all wait ,breath held, to see if MIss Vicky quits...after all would't want you to not be appreciated!!! Lol!!!

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      Shawn
      - June 22, 2012 at 11:56:08

      You can laugh at her all you want, but the fact is, alot of these people are SKILLED. Kruger has refused to hire anyone that doesn't have a Technologist diploma or degree so yes, these people are educated and skilled.Probably over qualified for alot of the jobs at CBPP. This is Krugers fault, not the employees, for requiring a Technologist to preform a laborers job. These people have every right to want to work for a wage fitting their skillset and education level. If Joe Kruger had hired laborers for labor jobs and Techs for Tech jobs, his labor costs wouldn't be what they are today. Again, this was a company mismanagement error not a union or employee mistake.

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