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Conche stuck in a rut after paving pilot project

The picture, posted in April to Facebook group The Face of Disgrace-Conche Road by Charlene Kearney, shows potholes in the gravel road along Route 434 from Roddickton to Conche. Scott Carroll

The picture, posted in April to Facebook group The Face of Disgrace-Conche Road by Charlene Kearney, shows potholes in the gravel road along Route 434 from Roddickton to Conche.

Published on July 10, 2012
Published on July 9, 2012
Meaghan Philpott  RSS Feed
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Department of Transportation and Works , Conche , Roddickton , St. Anthony

CORNER BROOK — People in the Conche area want to see improvements to roads in and around their community.

Scott Carroll said he cannot understand why Route 434, from Roddickton to Conche, is not paved.

"It's 2012," he said. "They're paving other people's communities and we're here with a gravel road."

As a nurse commuting each day to Roddickton, and sometimes St. Anthony, Carroll is fearful of getting flat tires on the dirt road.

He has already gotten cracks in his windshield, and said it is pointless to buy a new car because of the risk of damage.

Carroll said many people in the community experience similar woes.

"The road to Roddickton is always a disgrace," he said. (The roads) has always been an obstacle for us commuters in the community."

There was some improvement to the road in 2007, when the province initiated a pilot project to pave provincial roads in the area with a chip sealing procedure, said town clerk, Alice Flynn.

This paving material is a mixture that is suppose to be more durable than some other types of pavement.

Flynn said the government paved five, of approximately 26 kilometres from Conche to Roddickton.

The municipality paid 25 per cent of the cost for the province extended the project to cover four kilometres of municipal roads, as well.

The chip seal pavement was suppose to have a decade guarantee, Flynn said, but roads are now filled with potholes and have been since the year after it was laid.

"We're getting to the point where we're just putting gravel in (the potholes)," Flynn said.

She said the municipality asked government to reimburse over $114,000 it cost the town to pave that four km, but the province will only provide quick-patch material for pothole repairs.

Since the town paid this percentage, under the municipal capital works program, the ratio has been changed so that municipalities only pay 10 percent of such costs.

This summer government has repaved the five kilometres of provincial roads it did with chip seal in 2007, but did not extend the pavement further than that piece.

"We thought we'd get at least another few kilometres," Flynn said, of the roadway that turns from pavement to gravel.

Government needs clear plan

The area's MHA, Christopher Mitchelmore, said government needs to step in and reclaim costs that the town spent on the faulty paving program.

Mitchelmore, NDP member for The Straits - White Bay North, said the Conservative government needs a provincial transportation plan like their Nova Scotia counterparts.

The Nova Scotia NDP government released a 2012-13 five-year highway improvement plan, including paving, construction and other maintenance to the province's roadways.

The plan outlines capital breakdown costs from three levels of government, and a schedule of approved projects for the next five years.

Newfoundland and Labrador's Department of Transportation and Works has a 2011-14 strategic plan on its website, but it is vague in comparison to Nova Scotia's plans.

This province is a patchwork of projects, Mitchelmore said, that can been seen easily with bridge and ferry services.

"(Government) hasn't shown anyone that they have a plan beyond the day-by-day," he said. "They have strategies, but we dont see that clear plan."

Nearby Roddickton mayor, Ray Norman, said he had no problem getting government roads paved near his community.

Roddickton did not get any municipal roads paved through the government's chip seal program, but the provincial road running through town to neighbouring Englee was paved under the program.

After returning from this summer's holidays, Norman said the government paved over the pothole-filled chip seal stretch. He said the work was suppose to be done last year, but he's not complaining.

"What they've done this year is make quite a difference to our roads," he said.

Norman said communication with minister Thomas Hedderson and government officials has been very open, and it seems the province listen to his municipality's road needs.

"I would like to see (all the roads) done at the same time," he said. "But you need money to do it all."

The department of Transportation and Works was unable to be reached due to the Orangeman's Day holiday on Monday.

 

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    Dawn Kearney
    - July 24, 2012 at 08:22:42

    In response to Sam. There are lots of communities asking for road improvements. However, these communities don't have gravel roads. They have poorly paved roads. This is still bad but it is far from gravel roads riddled with potholes. The road to Conche is unacceptable. And relocating resident's is NOT an option.

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    Anonymous
    - July 11, 2012 at 09:01:33

    There are people who drive over this road daily, it is clearly unture that these roads are great. For someone driving over Conche road once or twice it may allow you to think its a great 17 kms of road, but for the people of conche driving over this road daily it becomes Irritating and inconvenient; visible in the picture included in the article many people would disagree that there is anything great about these roads, while driving over the road multiple times eventually you will realize it becomes very difficult to see when there are other vehicles also driving on the road ahead, or very irritating when a rock smacks into your windshield; many people would also not be to pleased to drive into one of these potholes and bust tires. Personally in my opinion conche roads are far from great and after this long period of time waiting for pavement, more then 5 kms should have been paved.

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    Mike
    - July 11, 2012 at 00:59:38

    Sam, while you can say that it was a lovely drive at one point, hundreds of residents have been driving over this road for years and it doesn't seem like a pleasant drive when the chassis of the cars crack. Driving at a smalls pace so as to not damage anything delicate that could be on-board. While millions have been spent on the road why couldn't it have been done right the first time? It's not the people's of Conches fault, it's short sighted government spending. Instead of spending 5 million before to do it properly, they end up spending 10 million and the bill just keeps rising rapidly. Again, this is 2012, how is it justifiable that just because other towns share the same lack of modern innovation (although modern is a very loose term here, Newfoundland has had paved roads since before Confederation) that people should just accept the fact that what little that was paved has already crumbled apart and it seems like the hope for having it completely done is fading.

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    Gerald
    - July 10, 2012 at 23:29:57

    I am trying to decipher if SAM is a Dunderdale supporter who shares the same disdain as the current Governing party for the residents of Conche and area, or is he/she a resurrected neanderthal from the Joey Smallwood days of forced "resettlement". In either instance your reaction to the reporter's article is both condescending and contemptuously disrespectful to the citizens of that historic community on the Northern Peninsula. How dare you suggest that the "best bet would have been to pay the people to move" !! Are you hypothezing that all small communities of 150 should be resettled? What a personification of the Smallwood era ! And how dare you suggest they want the rest of the road to be paved "right away" !! The folks in Conche have been pleading for that road to be paved for several years. Their requests have been made many times over; however such requests have fallen on deaf ears. Current pleas are simply manifestations of their desires to be treated like the average citizen of the Province and those pleas they make a number of times a year and for many years. And I say, how dare you determine that having "travelled the road last week" you are in a position to come to the conclusion the road in question is "a great 17 kms of gravel road". By arriving at such a determination you are, in reality, questioning the good judgement of the many people in Conche and other communities who traverse that road every day, sometimes several times a day for work, for shopping, for visiting, for transporting of fish from the fish plant in preparation for market, for holidayers/tourists, boating &sight-seeing enthusiasts, hikers, French Shore Historical Society visitors and the hundreds of former Conche residents who return for Summer visits. The list goes on. How dare you challenge the wisdom and knowledge of those people !! And you say that "millions of dollars have been spent" on that road. Maybe that is so, for it's been nothing but repetitive patching, patching, patching and pot-hole filling for years. I would suggest such an expenditure of funds, along with a continuing repeat performance of future expenditure, would better serve Conche residents and other taxpayers of the Province if such funding was directed to paving the road once and for all. The people of Conche will not be forced, or enticed, to relocate. Their pride in the history of their community will continue to anchor them there and God Bless them for it. Keep up the good fight. You deserve what you are asking for. SAM

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      sam
      - July 11, 2012 at 15:36:11

      All i am saying is that you guys are not the only ones who want or need money for roads in this province. And the next time you drive that road think about what it was like 10 years ago...more than patching work has been done. It was a woods road til about 6 or 7 years ago. And Gerald...ask yourself what was done with that road before a few years ago? I am sure the great people of Conche are just like the rest of us Newfoundlanders and Labradorians...

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    sam
    - July 10, 2012 at 15:17:28

    As the reporter you should take a ride to Conche. I travelled the road last week...it was a great 17 kms of gravel road. Sure there might be times in the spring where it is bad but so are alot of the paved roads in other towns. In the past 5 or 6 yrs there have been millions of dollars spent on this 25 kms of road, some would say for less than 150 people. Now they want the rest of the road paved right away...well i want my roads fixed too. But we all have to wait! Maybe the best bet would have been to pay the people to move. And what the heck is Mitchelmore talking about? There has been 5 or 6 million spent already on this road...doesnt somebody else in the area deserve some money now? How can you announce a 5 year roads plan when we don't know the budget for the coming years. People need to be more realistic!

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      Dawn Kearney
      - July 11, 2012 at 08:10:16

      As a resident of Conche, I 100% disagree that the road are, "Great." The condition of the road is disgusting. The amount of money spent on the roads is irrelevant. There should be money invested to pave the roads. People are being realistic. It's 2012, not the 1900's. I myself have ruined multiple tires on the road commuting to work. I highly doubt that you would have this opinion if it were you driving over this road everyday!

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      Alice Flynn
      - July 12, 2012 at 00:36:51

      Well Sam let get a few things straight. First of all its approx. 21 kms of gravel road left to pave and as far as we are concerned there is not another community on this island who deserves this any more than we do. We have been waiting 42 years for this since the road came through here and if we got pavement we will only be enjoying what every other community got. This is 2012 and there should be no such thing as a gravel road, we are not asking for the road to be paved right away, we would have been contented to get another 5 kms this year with the 5 kms that was approved last year and was just recently done, at least we would have seen that the government were sincere in trying to finish it. It's really to bad now isn't it that you want your roads fixed, well you wait until we get our pavement so we can enjoy what you have enjoyed over the years. As for your comment to pay us to move, now why would we? Conche has been good to its people and we are here to stay after all we are" the beauty spot of the north" and paved roads has gone through towns with a lot less people than Conche. As for the 6 million already spent on the road, believe you me we certainly appreciated it but if they don't finish it than why start it.....because we damn well deserve it. Oh, by the way Mayor Norman, we thought that our communication with Min. Hedderson had been very open also but the province did not listen to our municipality's road needs.

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      sam
      - July 13, 2012 at 22:37:59

      Alice Flynn...i hear you. My point is that there is only so much money to go around each year and there are lots of people looking for it. And everybody thinks they deserve it, and that they should be priority. Hopefully you will get your road done over the next few years. You never know...

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