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Broadway resident wants bar noise controlled

Broadway resident Margaret Hicks is petitioning the City of Corner Brook to reduce the noise created by her neighbourhood’s nightclubs. — Star photo by Gary Kean

Broadway resident Margaret Hicks is petitioning the City of Corner Brook to reduce the noise created by her neighbourhood’s nightclubs. — Star photo by Gary Kean

Gary Kean
Published on August 19, 2012
Published on August 17, 2012
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Corner Brook city council , Broadway , Corner Brook , Concord Avenue

CORNER BROOK  Margaret Hicks has lived in the Broadway area for 42 years, but she has never heard the like of the amount of noise coming from the downtown strip these days.

The resident of Concord Avenue, a sideroad to the area of Corner Brook that is home to several nightclubs, is so fed up that she has circulated a petition.

Her concerns, and those of the 25 neighbours who signed the petition, have made it to the agenda of Monday night’s public meeting of Corner Brook city council.

“You can’t get any sleep any more,” she said. “My son was home a little while ago with his small kids and he said we shouldn’t have to put up with that.”

Hicks said she was opposed to the city issuing a permit to one club, McHugh’s, to install a garage-style door that is usually open during warmer summer nights. She said the music emanating through the area has increased since then.

Another establishment, Nightsounds, is even closer to Concord Avenue and was recently given permission to build an outside deck for its patrons.

She thinks the problem may get worse when that deck gets built and filled with inebriated patrons.

Hicks said she has complained to the city and to the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary, but has not gotten any satisfaction from either authority.

Doug Payne lives on Roan Street, directly across from McHugh’s. He said the late-night racket from the area’s bars doesn’t really bother him, but he can see why others are frustrated. He said it’s a nightly problem, especially during the summer months from Wednesday to Sunday.

“I totally understand where they are coming from,” he said. “You can feel our house thumping and shaking with the music. After the bars close, Broadway is like a party on the street until 4:30 or 5 o’clock in the morning.

“There  should be some kind of control on it.”

Payne, who has a seven-year-old son, said there are a lot of homes in the area with small children.

“I know my son can’t go to sleep with the window open, no matter how warm it is, because of the noise from the bars,” said Payne.

Payne never signed the petition himself, but said it was possible someone else in his house had done so when Hicks came by seeking support.

Hicks will get her chance to address city council in person when the petition is dealt with at Monday night’s meeting.

City councillors said they would not comment on the petition until after they heard from Hicks Monday night.

Paul Barnable, the City of Corner Brook’s director of community services, did say that the municipal police have spoken with all of the bar owners and managers on Broadway since the petition was received and advised them of the concerns raised by residents.

Each establishment was also provided with a copy of the noise regulations to ensure they were aware of requirements that state all windows and doors of licensed establishments must be closed between the hours of 10 p.m. and 7 a.m.

“With respect to official complaints, which are those that are received through our customer service line, I can confirm that we have received two complaints from one individual within the last month,” said Barnable.

 

 

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    anon
    - April 26, 2013 at 13:24:56

    yes, lets get rid of the only nightlife corner brook has, make the city an even less approachable place for university students (our city's number one resource), and ruin several small businesses because a few people didn't bother to consider location before moving somewhere. seriously, since before the Broadway fire (in 1949 i believe), the street has been one of the social and cultural hubs of the city. it had an avid nightlife longer then this woman has lived there, and even though our nights run a little longer now then back in her day, she has no right to complain to the city. if she has an issue, move or get earplugs. it's time we stopped making corner brook a city for the asleep and the dead. for the first time in my memory, the area actually has some life breathed into it. don't make the city pay for this woman's mistake.

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    Bill Maher
    - April 25, 2013 at 14:36:53

    If you live next to the main bar street in Corner Brook expect noise, like a person with a house next to a dump would expect a foul smell. Its not like the city allowed these business owner to start this up and didnt expect these people to use music until the bar closed at 230am, get real.

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    Not dead yet
    - August 21, 2012 at 16:26:04

    Too bad about the noise, It's a commercial area and they are noisey. The bars, clubs and theatre (Palace) days have always been there and if you bought property there, tough... This is the same reason why Corner Brook is going backwards. Nothing new, nothing different and , oh Shhhhhhh you might wake up a greyhair.... Suck it up. Another thing, City council, do us all a favor and QUIT! You give nothing and all you do is listen to the mindless retired ones who do not want any change in this town and write laws to fit their agenda. I'm not dead yet and would rather see this town rocking creating an economy that our young people can find jobs and live productive lives here. It's plenty quiet over in Mt. Patricia. Make some noise now!

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    West Side Girl
    - August 20, 2012 at 19:34:44

    I find generally that the clubs/lounges are small premises with bands who play music too loud. You can't have a conversation without screaming into someone's ear or spitting into the side of their face to be heard. There were residences on the Concord Avenue/Cabot Lane/Noah's Lane/Broadway/Caribou Road area before there were "clubs". The first club on Broadway that I can remember is the old Club 17 downstairs and Colonial Lounge upstairs. It doesn't help either when you have club patrons coming out of the clubs drunked up, shouting, squealing and generally making a racket. They can put a rover on Mars, they can figure out how to contain noise.

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      Devil's Advocate
      - August 22, 2012 at 12:39:02

      Wow! I didn't know the bar owners put the rover on mars, that's impressive.

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    CBGirl
    - August 20, 2012 at 12:53:22

    Whoever posted above masquerading as CBGirl, i agree. With some of what ya said at least. To others saying ' Why is it only now a complaint', this complaint is a number of years old. The Humber Log regularly reported on the same story, just different players (the Studio and a guy on Concord). The number of people left on broadway is a direct result of not enough cabs available at that time of night, and food being available right next to the bars. The operating hours would be the only way to change the 4 am presence of people out. Its right that not many other cities would have this complaint- Halifax downtown scene is in the middle of the hotel scene and noise is never mentioned by anyone living Permanently or temporarily downtown. But there could be way worse things going on down there. Follow me on twitter @_cbgirl.

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    Tony
    - August 20, 2012 at 11:32:27

    Move near bars, complain that they're too loud. Move near old building, complain that it's an eyesore. Move near mall, complain about youth foot traffic. There's a reason houses are cheaper on Broadway, you have to put up with the noise. If you don't like it, you should have saved more money & bought a house in a more quiet, further-from-downtown, area.

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    CB GIRL
    - August 20, 2012 at 10:36:30

    If you live in a downtown district you are close to the noise and the people and what that brings. If you live in a quiet neighbourhood ..it is well.. quiet. The bar scene of corner brook is located in its downtown district, why should it change so one person who choses to live there wants it to be quiet? This is why Corner Brook well never be up and coming and why it is a bad place for young people to live. There can be nothing good here because of people like her. This is ridiculous. Corner Brook top news... woman has problem with downtown noise... imagine this is another cities paper???

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    lisa
    - August 20, 2012 at 10:02:47

    i agree with the lady in my time /we also partied on broadway till late night but then you left the clubs and went home to finish our parties not hang out on the sides of the road causing trouble now a days they dont go out till 12 or later to start partying so they are out till all hours partying or causing problems for those people living in the areas

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    mummer
    - August 20, 2012 at 09:11:21

    Well it was 1954 , our house had burned to the ground , so we moved in a apartment over a store on Noah's Ave. Our entertaiment ( as kids) was listening to the loud music from Johnson's restaurant and watching fights that developed later on. Just saying, loud music and Broadway has been around a long time , longer than 42 years..

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    Corner Brook resident
    - August 20, 2012 at 08:45:26

    and THIS is why this town is going backwards and no one under 65 wants to live here. I was at McHughs this past weekend and broadway was half dead.

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    Sherry
    - August 20, 2012 at 08:02:26

    Corner Brook needs a downtown life. Should we push all bars outside the city boundaries? I think not. This nightlife in this town is already dying or dead. Hicks claims she has lived in the area for 42 years. Well, she must have been on Broadway when the bar wars were alive and well. I remember Broadway being much louder than it is now. I drive through town many late nights and the entire town is dead. I seldom see any youth out for a walk or ride. And, yet citizens complain about a few bars having a great time. Wow! Maybe the City can hire a few more 'wanna-be-cops' from PPAB to patrol Broadway, similar to the guards stationed at the parks and the lookout. Makes me sick. This one-horse town has nothing to appeal to citizens under the age of 65 years and now we hear one more disgruntled voice. The bar owners should be the ones circulating the petition. I for one would sign it and I have never been inside Night Sounds etc. But, I do support the people who are trying to keep Corner Brook alive and well. I hope they get the patio for the club and I think McHugh's should have a patio too. ARRGHHH! If Broadway is too noisy, move to Churchill Crescent!

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      Cherry
      - August 20, 2012 at 09:15:38

      ARRGHHH! Obviously someone who is not a property owner.

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    Jay
    - August 20, 2012 at 07:42:17

    How ridiculous. This is nothing new, everyone knows that Broadway is loud at night. Why is it only an issue now? If you can't handle noise in the night, why live that close? If a bar owner opened a bar in a quiet neighborhood, then that would be a good excuse to make a fuss. This is all that Corner Brook has for nightlife anymore so why get rid of it? And people wonder what is driving youth away..

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    former resident of Corner Brook
    - August 20, 2012 at 02:48:23

    If you don't like the noise, move. Its Broadway. It's where people are going to club and party. Corner Brook is a crappy place to go and enjoy yourself at a club anyways, compared to Quebec and here in Halifax. It's time for night sounds to upgrade their establishment. That also was a crap yard with only about less than $5000.00 in lighting and special effects equipment. I think the clubs need to be way more upgraded in that poor city and need to be sound proofed so the resident can get a "good sleep"

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      David
      - August 20, 2012 at 07:35:11

      And there you have it... Welome to lovely Newfoundland, where the inamates are in charge of the asylum. You're not a "former" resident of Corner Brook as much as you're inflicting yourself on some other place now.

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    Skeptical Cynic
    - August 19, 2012 at 19:58:14

    This situation is absolutely ridiculous, and appears to be another example of the bush-league manner in which that community is being administered. Sounds to me like CB city council may be liable for depriving these property-owners of their right to the quiet enjoyment of their properties by not enforcing the nuisance bylaws. The fact that municipal police have discussed the matter with bar owners indicates the city has recognized that there the property-owners have a legitmate complaint here. The property-owners who felt it necessary to sign that petition might want to consider chipping in to retain legal council to determine if they do indeed have a case against the CB city council. I know I certainly would.

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    Jimmy
    - August 19, 2012 at 15:21:09

    hahahahahahahahahah this is so funny, if you been living there for 42 years why are you just saying something now

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    buck
    - August 19, 2012 at 14:57:48

    This is hilarious

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    Jay
    - August 19, 2012 at 14:05:52

    How ridiculous. This is nothing new, everyone knows that Broadway is loud at night. Why is it only an issue now? If you can't handle noise in the night, why live that close? If a bar owner opened a bar in a quiet neighborhood, then that would be a good excuse to make a fuss. This is all that Corner Brook has for nightlife anymore so why get rid of it? And people wonder what is driving youth away..

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    Taylor
    - August 19, 2012 at 14:04:21

    If you don't like the noise, then move. It's outrageous seeing people try to limit the already small music scene that exists in this town. You live near a plethora of bars, it gets noisy. That seems like something to be expected.

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    Jay
    - August 19, 2012 at 13:56:15

    How ridiculous. This is nothing new, everyone knows that Broadway is loud at night. Why is it only an issue now? If you can't handle noise in the night, why live that close? If a bar owner opened a bar in a quiet neighborhood, then that would be a good excuse to make a fuss. This is all that Corner Brook has for nightlife anymore so why get rid of it? And people wonder what is driving youth away..

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    MS
    - August 19, 2012 at 11:37:34

    What should they do? Close down the bars? I think that living so close to a busy spot is the problem. You shouldnt expect it to be the same as a quiet little subdivision! You are living in a downtown center of a city!

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    Devil's Advocate
    - August 19, 2012 at 09:55:00

    No wonder this town is dead...people want it that way :(

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    george p b
    - August 19, 2012 at 09:05:14

    Where are the police at 0400 in the morning? Not on Broadway, surely. Are there not laws regarding public intoxication? drinking in a public place? bars serving intoxicated customers? not to mention that rule about closed doors & windows. Just enforce existing laws. Corner Brook deserves better than this from RNC... “..... After the bars close, Broadway is like a party on the street until 4:30 or 5 o’clock in the morning...."

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