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Unincorporated areas to pay for fire department calls

Diane Crocker
Published on October 16, 2012
Published on October 15, 2012
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Corner Brook Fire Department , Humber Valley Resort , Corner Brook , Pinchgut Lake , Humber Village

CORNER BROOK — The City of Corner Brook effectively served notice to unincorporated areas Monday night that it was implementing an out of jurisdiction response charge to recover costs associated with the Corner Brook Fire Department providing service outside its municipal boundary.

A motion to implement the cost recovery process was approved at Monday night’s council meeting. It was further resolved and passed that the process will apply to unincorporated areas.

“We’ve been providing that service for a good many years, and I’m of the opinion that as a fire department we should be providing that service,” said fire Chief Neville Wheaton. “But the residents of Corner Brook are now paying for that, but they won’t be in the future.”

He said the city has no legal obligation to respond to calls outside its boundaries, but is frequently called to respond to other jurisdictions.

The cost will apply to all types of calls, everything from structure fires to motor vehicle accidents.

Wheaton said on average the city fire department responds to between 17 and 20 such calls a year at an average cost of $1,000 per call.

The cost, he said, varies depending on the type of call and how long the department is out there for.

“The largest part of the cost would be that we bring in a second shift to cover off while the first shift is out,” said Wheaton.

Wheaton said the cost also includes consumables used during the call, everything from foam and absorbant materials for oil spills.

Areas that will be affected by the user pay system include Pinchgut Lake, George’s Lake, Spruce Brook, Humber Village and Humber Valley Resort.

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    David
    - October 17, 2012 at 19:39:46

    Paying for fire protection only if you use it...seriously? How stupid is everynoe around here? Incredibly, extremely, or fatally?

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    not fooled
    - October 17, 2012 at 10:18:01

    Sure when the firefighters are called back they get their overtime held back for time off in lieu the majority of the time. Under the system they had in place with 10 on a shift with the first two off not being replaced, this didn't cost the city nearly as much as they said. Most of the time when the firefighters take time off in lieu of OT there is nobody called in to replace them, therefore costing very little. I'd like to see the stats on what this has actually cost the city, how many times did someone use OT and the city not called in to replace them?

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    COMMUTER
    - October 17, 2012 at 08:42:07

    So, if I understand this new policy, any time a motor vehicle accident occurs outside of the City limits there will be a bill sent....to whom exactly. This will definately not be a boost to our tourism if someone from outside Newfoundland is sent a bill after they are in an accident on their holiday. Can you imagine the ripple effect that would have on the reputation Newfoundlanders have for being so "helpful"? Has anyone reading this ever been involved in an accident while they were on holiday. Did you receive a bill for "emergency services"? Does the city of Corner Brook plan to bring all these people to small claims court to ensure these bills are paid? Although I do not live or pay property & sewer taxes in Corner Brook, I can assure you much of my sales taxes are paid there. Or at least they used to be. This policy is not worth the money you will recoup from it. The bad feelings and bad publicity will far outweigh what offering these services are costing the city.

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      In CB
      - October 17, 2012 at 18:11:58

      No sales tax goes to Corner Brook on items bought in Corner Brook. That is why there is municipal taxes on your assesment in most towns. It is usually the only way they can generate revenue to cover their expenses.

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      Shawn
      - October 18, 2012 at 09:21:24

      No, if it's on the TCH, it's already subsidized by both the Federal and Provincial Governments. Their problem seems to be with calls to private property incidents in other communities. I think if there is a call for assistance to these communities, the City should be compensated for it as it is providing a service outside it's tax base. A better way to deal with it would be for the Municipalities along with the Provincial Government to ensure that each area has the proper fire services of their own. These times are probably the largest economic boom our province will ever see. It's time to start investing in our province with respect to emergency services and infrastructure and make sure that the services available here are also available to the other areas. Rather than start a fee per use system with Corner Brook, lets make sure that the Steady Brook/ Little Rapids Fire Dept. for example, has more of it's own resources available to deal with whatever situation arises. More equipment, more staff, whatever.

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    Little Rapids Resident
    - October 16, 2012 at 23:07:29

    Humber Village Has an agreement in place with the Town of Steady Brook for fire protection, for which they pay a fee for service with response from the Steady Brook Little Rapids Regional Fire Department. We all pay a fee fro the services received on a per residence basis

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    Derrick
    - October 16, 2012 at 16:12:13

    They should charge each house a fix price per year in advance to cover the stand-by costs and capital costs of the fire dept.

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    Jack
    - October 16, 2012 at 13:53:55

    Since Humber Village and Humber Valley Resort are adjacent to a major settlement like Pasadena, why are Corner Brook targeted these communities? Just another cash crab from City of Corner Brook. Hope the Newfoundland and Labrador Government puts a stop to charging people for making an emergency call. Besides, punishing someone for something beyond their control like a fire or accident is just morally cruel from Corner Brook City Council and Corner Brook Fire Department. Charging fees for accidents is the same as dictating when and where people can have an event beyond their control. Just another reason not to vote for Greeley in next year's Civic Elections.

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      Shawn
      - October 16, 2012 at 16:44:42

      Humber Village, Humber Valley Resort and the other areas involved do not pay taxes to the City of Corner Brook and therefore do not contribute to the CB Fire Dept. Why should our tax dollars pay for some other communities fire services? Why don't they have their own fire services? Personally, I think it's high time that Corner Brook tax payers stop footing the bill for these services to other communities. They should absolutely respond if needed for any emergency services but there should be some type of cost sharing arrangement in place where these communities pay a share of the costs either directly or through some plan with the provincial government.

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