 |

 |
OBITUARIES - DEATH NOTICES - CARDS OF THANKS
|
 |
 |
|
 |
|




 |
|
 |
 |
|
 |
|
| Last updated at 1:53 AM on 04/11/09 |
First responders to line up with general public for H1N1 vaccine 
CORNER BROOK CLIFF WELLS The Western Star
Firefighters and police have been bumped off the priority list to get the H1N1 vaccine, and Neville Wheaton believes that’s a problem.
The Corner Brook fire chief has been in contact with Western Health and the Fire Commissioner’s office to see why the priority for first responders was dropped.
He said he knows there are a lot of factors at play in the vaccination program and it’s a dynamic situation, but he’s not sure why the first responders have suddenly been placed in the same priority as the general population.
“If I’m running a business, I have 50 or 60 people in it and 40 per cent of my staff are down, the work doesn’t get done,” Wheaton said. “If my staff here is down 40 per cent, then we can’t respond.”
He says it’s nobody’s fault in particular there are issues with the vaccination campaign he is sure he doesn’t know about.
He’s talked to St. John’s firefighters that have been vaccinated and have said they received priority.
St. John’s Deputy Fire Chief Jack Hickey told Transcontinental Media his firefighters were able to get the vaccine as “first responders” on medical calls during the period health-care workers were vaccinated.
However, they weren’t supposed to get the vaccine, Health Minister Jerome Kennedy said Tuesday.
At a media briefing, Kennedy said first responders such as firefighters, ambulance attendants and police were not included in the designated health-care category vaccinated last week.
The St. John’s department has been at least partly covered and the Conception Bay South Fire Department is getting vaccinated early, but not Corner Brook. It’s hard for him to reconcile the different stories.
Wheaton said a regular shift has 10 firefighters on duty, but he can operate with a minimum response strength of eight. Less than that in unmanageable.
He’s asked for ideas about what to do if he too many firefighter are off sick. He has a small pool of relief workers, but that may not be enough. Overtime is an option, but he doesn’t want to burn his crews out.
“If I’m down to 40 per cent or below 40 per cent, how do I respond?” he asked. “What happens if I can’t respond?
“I don’t know. I’m as confused as the general public is on the changes and stuff.”
Sgt. Mark Hancock, district commander for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, is working as best he can to protect his members from the swine flu. He said most members have protective masks. They use gloves and promote handwashing, but the vaccine is one tool he will have to do without until RCMP officers get vaccinated along with the general public.
“The province is looking at vaccinating high-risk people and children first,” Hancock said. “We’ve got some of our people done, but not all of them. We’re basically waiting for updates.
“What I’ve got from our Criminal Operations is members will line up with the general population when it gets to that stage even though we’re first responders.”
Dr. Greg Mercer, western medical officer of health, said the earlier plans were devised for H5N1 avian flu which kills nearly half the people who get it.
First responders are in the mass-immunization queue and will be treated like any other citizen.
“When we get to the point where we’re able to do mass immunization, we might try to accommodate them as a group at a point and time,” Mercer said. “We haven’t even discussed that because we don’t know what our vaccine supply will be at this point.”
|
04/11/09
|
Comments: |
|
This Conversation is Semi-Moderated. What is moderation?
|
| What does moderation mean? |
 |
The Western Star is committed to encouraging intelligent discourse among our readers and to creating a forum where diverse views and opinions on a wide range of topics can be aired. The forum you are in now is a result of our continuing efforts to facilitate a dynamic online conversation among our readers.
This is a semi-moderated or reactively moderated conversation. Once a reader follows the steps to register and submit his or her comment it goes directly to the website. A comment may be edited or deleted for reasons of content or language.
All readers wishing to join a conversation must first sign in and agree to the Terms of Usage, which explain the rules of acceptable content.
|
|
|
(Post a comment)
|
 |
 |
 |
Ada from Ab writes: Not happy to see first responders having to line up.
I think they should be on high priority list BUT be given the option to refuse the shot due to personal reasons.
Have spoken to a few paramedics and given the choice they will not get this vaccine as they personally feel , they do not trust how fast it was mass produced or tested.They are human after all. Some will want it and all will gear up like a hazmat case and enter where they deem the ugly virus is present.
BUT for those of us who call 911 -we expect them to come to our aid when we are in a crisis or ill and we need them healthy and protected to do their job.
Put them in the level of health care workers They usually deal with the ill via ambulance or the ugly side in accidents before they even make it to hospital.We need to give them all the protection to keep doing a job so important for the mass public.. just dial 3 little numbers and they come anytime- anywhere..
Give them the respect they deserve and the choice..Some may pass up on their shot to give it to others they feel need it more-that is the soul of these workers.
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 3:03 AM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
|
Dave R from NL writes: They don't need the option to refuse the flu shot because it is not mandatory. I'm not knocking paramedics in anyway but they would not be the group that I would be looking towards for guidance on this. While they do work under in the medical field I do not see how the training they receive and the experience they gain can give any insight to the proper testing and production of a vaccine.
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 8:52 AM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
|
Parent of a student from NL writes: I have to say that all students should have been put first in this situation, but that isn't the case. Imagine how many of them are going from class to class sitting in different desks. If every student used the hand sanitizers placed in the schools, there wouldn't be enough to go around. Think about it. The government has failed our kids. This week the younger grades will be getting vaccinated and the older students will have to wait. This is not good enough and a better plan should have been put into place. I don't think that government heard that doctor on the news loud and clear to keep your students out of school until they get their vaccinations. This is a very scary situation but I don't wish anyone come down with this.
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 9:06 AM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
|
DB from NL writes: Why is he assuming '40%' will be, or could be off sick?
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 9:08 AM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
|
maggie from NL writes: Well I must say all is well in our society when all criminals in our province have been vaccinated yet our police force and fighters have not. I feel proud to be a Newfoundlander don't you??
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 9:25 AM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
Dave R from NL writes: The Government of Alberta has the right idea, get the Calgary Flames vaccinated ahead of the general population. I guess their thoughts were along the lines of The sick still need a bit of hockey to watch
http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20091103/edm_flames_091103/20091103?hub=EdmontonHome
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 9:31 AM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
* from Western, NL writes: I am a Paramedic here in Western NL. Ada, I agree with your thoughts and thank you.
I want to point out that I think this article might be false regarding ambulance attendants; more specifically, Paramedics and EMR's. As far as I'm aware, according to the government we are grouped in with health care providers. Someone correct my if this is not the government's position. We were in the health care provider grouping when I got my shot last week. We do after all assess and treat patients with a multitude of injuries, illnesses and disease processes including H1N1; and administer medications including aerosol-generating nebulized treatments.
And to Dave, while the H1N1 shot is not 'mandatory', I was told I would be off work without it if H1N1 became a pandemic. While I would agree that I am no expert on vaccine trials and production, I would argue that my medical training, knowledge and experience give me enough to interpret the scientific results of clinical trials and make an educated decision for myself about the vaccine, which is what I have done.
While firefighters and police officers have less exposure to H1N1 than Paramedics, they still are exposed in the course of their job and I feel they should receive the vaccine if they wish before the general public.
In a perfect world, the whole province would get it at the same time, but that is just not the reality. That is why government has to make those decisions.
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 10:04 AM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
l from nl writes: respond to what; a first responder at cbrook fire hall burning the crews eggs; ham or their sunday dinner;
this wheaton guy is a moron; why should they jump the line in front of sick people and teachers and other front line workers that deal with children...
what a joke; can we send this guy back to the mainland wherever he came from
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 12:53 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
|
Tom Collier from Curling, Newfoundland writes: All senior management at the hospital got their vaccination, yet they do no front line patient care...why is this?
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 2:07 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
Chris from NL writes: Why are people so stubborn, the vaccine priority groups weren't designated with who was most likely to get the flu, ie. Paramedics, Teachers, Students, Police, etc.
It was designed to get out to those who are more likely to DIE from the flue, ie. Young Children, people with chronic disease and Health Care workers to tend to the seriously ill.
Most people who get this will be sick for a few days and then back to normal just like any flu. The ones we need to protect are the ones like people with bad asthma, who have roughly a 30% chance to end up in hospital and 7% of those end up dying.
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 2:21 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
|
Ken from Nl writes: L from nl.... you are an Idiot... Let's hope the next time you call a first responder, They are all healthy
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 4:22 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
|
The list goes on from NL writes: What about the utillity workers who are needed to turn back on the power when it goes out? The list goes on!
|
| Posted 04/11/2009 at 7:33 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
| ALERT US ABOUT THIS COMMENT |
 |
Please let us know if this reader's comment breaks the rules explained in the Terms of Usage and is obscene, abusive, threatening, unlawful, harassing, defamatory, profane or racially offensive by selecting the appropriate option to describe the problem.
Do not use this to complain about comments that don't break the rules, for example those comments that you disagree with or contain spelling errors or multiple postings.
|
|
|
NOTE
The management of this site emphasizes that it is in no way liable for persons, physical or legal, who are hosted here. Moreover, the managers of this site may not be held liable for errors and omissions that may slip into the information displayed in these reader comments. Everyone who submits a comment should read, understand and agree to the Terms of Usage for this section.
 |
|
|
|
|
|