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Majority of union members accept reduced wages in hopes of preserving their jobs

Gary Healey, CEP’s national representative, listens to a question from the media Friday night. — Star photo by Gary Kean

Gary Healey, CEP’s national representative, listens to a question from the media Friday night. — Star photo by Gary Kean

Gary Kean
Published on June 23, 2012
Published on June 23, 2012
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International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers , Paperworkers union , Local 64 , CORNER BROOK , Montreal

CORNER BROOK  Their fellow locals went to bat for them everyday, but electricians at Corner Brook Pulp and Paper say they were unable to get a collective agreement they could live with.

Local 96 of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers union were the only one of the five CEP locals to reject the labour contract offered to them by parent company Kruger Inc. when results of two days of voting by CEP members were announced late Friday night.

The electricians followed suit with Lodge 1567 of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, who rejected their contract offer Wednesday.

The IAMAW represents skilled trades workers such as machinists, millwrights and welders.

Robert Aucoin, president of Local 96, said electricians were willing to accept wage, benefit and pension concessions like the other CEP unions, but said their trade needs more help from the company if the mill is to retain electricians.

“We were looking for a trade adjustment to keep us in line with competitors, but mostly to try and keep the people we’ve got there,” said Aucoin after the voting was announced around 11 p.m.

Corner Brook Pulp and Paper needs around two dozen electricians, like it had one year ago, said Aucoin. In the past year, eight electricians have resigned from the mill to find employment elsewhere and two others have retired.

Some of those who quit had between 12 and 20 years of experience, which Aucoin said is not easy to replace with someone fresh off the street, even if that person is an experienced journeyman electrician.

“He’s a journeyman, but he doesn’t have all the skills ... of someone who has worked there for 20 years,” he said.

Aucoin appreciated the support of the other locals during negotiations with the company and hopes the electricians can still work something out with their employer.

“Hopefully, with everything that has happened, we can get back and sit down with company officials to try and work out some sort of agreement and find some way to retain our skilled trades,” he said. “If we don’t have skilled trades in the mill, I don’t know how they are going to maintain the equipment that’s there.”

Gary Healey, the CEP’s national representative, said the union is willing to work with the company to re-position the mill to be competitive in the challenging newsprint market and is awaiting the company’s response.

“The trades have pointed out to the company that it will be difficult to retain qualified personnel with a wage below the industry standard,” said Healey. “This situation will create a significant barrier to maintaining the mill in a production-ready state.”

Brian Quigley, president of Local 64 — the last of the locals to vote, agreed the company has got to do something for it’s skilled trades workers.

“We asked the company every day of negotiations for something to try and retain our tradesmen and boiler operators,” said Quigley. “I don’t know what they’re going to do, but we need them to run the mill.”

At the same time, he is not sure how it would go over for the company to sweeten the pot for one group now.

“What would they be telling you? Turn down your contract all the time and you’ll get something better after?” asked Quigley.

Healey would not give an exact number, but said the percentage of approval was “relatively high” among the locals who did accept their offers.

Nick Gushue, an operator in the thermo-mechanical pulping department and a 35-year veteran of the mill, voted in favour of the contract offered to Local 64. He hopes to retire in five years, but believes the Corner Brook mill still has a future and its workers will live to fight another day.

“It’s not like the old days when we could fight the company,” he said. “Times are hard, but we’ll do our part to help out.”

Now that there is some agreement between the unions and the company, Gushue would like to see the government invest in upgrading the mill’s infrastructure so it can continue to compete in the industry.

“Don’t give it to the company so they can do what they want with it,” he said of government money if it is available. “It has to be spent in that mill to keep the mill going. You’re talking Newfoundlanders’ money. You don’t want that going to Montreal. You want that being spent on our future.”

In a press release issued late Friday night, Kruger acknowledged the positive vote from the CEP members who did accept the collective agreements left with them one week ago. There was no reference to Local 96’s rejection, but Kruger did say it must still further assess the mill’s viability since the IAMAW has rejected its contract offer.

The company said the new collective agreement will come into effect immediately and enables the company to hold a second vote on the pension plan funding relief measures and to continue assessing the mill’s viability.

Corner Brook Pulp and Paper’s pension plan administrators will now begin the process of arranging a second vote for active and retired employees on the pension proposal that was rejected by the unions in May.

The company expects the vote on the pension plan to be completed by Aug. 22.

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    therepo
    - June 25, 2012 at 10:10:12

    Union bashing has hit an all time high. I myself am in the same position at a similiar mill. I am still in awe at the amount of people who feel compelled to tell me how I should vote on these contracts. Since when is making a living become a sin in the maritimes? Is it bitterness? Petty jealousy? I don't know but I would like to see who would like to trade the lost years off their life from working in a chemical plant. Step up! Lastly, those that have time for computer use, look up free riders on google. Maybe step up and give back the vaction pay, holiday pay, EI, medical that your older people gained for you. Back then workers made little a few made much. Now after many years people are taking home less and less and CEO's are getting a bonus. Just how this union thing began it is ending and by the support of those that unknowingly benefit. There will always be those that will work for less, even to the bare minimum. Think about this when you drive to your job. You may see another car, a little older, sitting where you always park.

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      David
      - June 25, 2012 at 13:01:38

      Union bashing correlates precisely to how much unions have become a completely irrational, destructive force in the economy. And if you think it's 'high' now, just wait a bit longer.

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    c
    - June 25, 2012 at 09:39:17

    Shawn you SEEM to have all the answers maybe you should have been the one to do all the negotiations with Joe Kruger and everything in the garden would be all nice and rosey now and everyone would be happy with their piece of the pie.

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      Shawn
      - June 26, 2012 at 12:09:34

      Really C? I'm not sure anyone would have their piece of the pie if I was the negotiator because I would have told Joe Kruger to stay where he was. I'm of the belief that if the industry can't bare the cost of the labor, and other production costs,it has already failed and should be shut rather than stringing its employees along and pilfering the government coffers. Of course, with that said, If I were Joe, I wouldn't have hired skilled Technologists to clean floors and drive fork lifts for technologists pay grade, I would have hired the appropriate labor group for the job so my costs would have been lower from the get go. Alot of the blame for this situation truly lies in mismanagement and poor decisions made by Joe and his ilk.

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    Ed. A.
    - June 24, 2012 at 08:21:08

    before we make a judgement we should wait and see how the employees at the hospital and other places vote when they are asked for concessions on wages and benefits. the government will not be doing their job if the do not reduce public sector wages and benefits while they are running a deficit because of less tax revenues from corner brook. especially since they with your support told the union members to live on less. that was so sweet of dunderdale to be with the people of corner brook while the vote was taking place. not to mention the two years they spent behind closed doors with joe kruger trying to screw the pensioners. have a nice day.

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    Lori
    - June 23, 2012 at 23:11:18

    Shawn, I really appreciate your comments regarding the bigger picture here. The mill is really the main contributor to the economy of the west coast. It would be such a shame to see it close, and many families would be devastated. I am really glad to see the results of the voting turn out positively.

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    Crystal
    - June 23, 2012 at 19:23:11

    Does anyone know what this will mean for the 100s to 1000s of pensioners whose pensions were in jeopardy of being cut almost completely?

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    Duane
    - June 23, 2012 at 18:57:39

    Hey David and Shawn, you are entitled to your opinion because we live in a democracy. Where you get the right to voice your opinion and the right to vote.Like those union members did. Unions were created on the grounds of democracy and the right to a fair contract when dealing with billionaire company owners( 52nd richest man in Canada). 25% of your take home pay is alot to lose when your already being payed lower then the rest of the industry. I am one of the eight electricians that left CBPP six months ago because they weren't treating us fair. Your comments were unfair and un true. First of all Contractors when the mill could find them that is, are asking for wages that are higher then the regular empolyees. CBPP has also been looking for new electricians to replace the ones that are leaving and can't find any. Furthermore those local 96 members are great family people who are thinking of their families when they are making these stressful decisions not sitting at a bar at 2am. So before you make uneducated comments that make you look stupid, get your facts straight.I would till you to apply for one of those jobs. But it sounds like you don't have the education .You sound more like a 12 year old bully on a school pay ground.

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    RogerMacInnis
    - June 23, 2012 at 15:43:09

    @ David voting no means they have a back bone. They have the same rep as the other four unions so cut the drama about union goons and drinking till 2am what that has to do with the issues is unknown. As for resigning their positions and letting others do their work at that price. Haven't you paid any attention to the want adds in the western star? CBPPl has been looking to hire electricians for ages with little to no interest. Thoses to they do find do not end up staying for the long term. So it's not as simple as you make it out to be. CBPPL is not the place of years ago where ppl are waiting at the door to work there. And as for being in a union that accepted the agreement I do not think those in local 96 are lice. @shawn tradesmen in the mill do see the big picture that's why they are in the position they are in. When you are in a position where others are leaving and work demands remain the same it becomes a stressfull place to work. Contractors also are not able to just drop in at 2am and trouble shoot issues that a permanent electrician miillwright or inst tech would be able to fix much faster and be there already, these guys aren't just running wire for outlets and light switches.. So it's not so cut and dried as you guys make it out to be. Think a little more before you speak and do a little research.

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      Shawn
      - June 26, 2012 at 11:54:43

      Roger, I understand very well that position that they are in. It's a very common one today but for many different reasons. More work and the pay stays the same or less, believe me, I do understand. I am also a realist and the reality of this is that when the cost cutting axe swings, there are always more contractors and less employees. In other operations I have worked there are contractor employees on call for the 2am troubleshootings and the operation rolls on with reduced costs. It's an fact of today's reality. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying what local 96 did was wrong or they made the wrong choice because I probably would have voted the same as they did, or/and moved on if the outcome wasn't to my satisfaction. Don't be afraid to step outside those mill gates. There is a whole world waiting out there with bigger and better opportunities that CBPP can offer.

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    Dennis
    - June 23, 2012 at 13:30:05

    While this is only one step towards keeping the mill open, I believe the city/region dodged a major bullet with this vote. The importance to the mill to the local economy is not really appreciated but one mill job provides about 3 time the impact compared to other job in Corner Brook and a closure would have been devastating locally. A lesson to be learned here is that we (all levels of government)need to be continually working to attract private sector jobs here as the local economy is very fragile. I am relieved that the vote went this way but there is work to be done yet.

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      Shawn
      - June 23, 2012 at 13:55:03

      "The importance to the mill to the local economy is not really appreciated but one mill job provides about 3 time the impact compared to other job in Corner Brook" Care to expand on that and explain why that is so, with relevant numbers to back up your statement? Why are mill jobs any more important that any other comparable wage jobs in Corner Brook?

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      Matt
      - June 23, 2012 at 15:48:44

      Only easy to figure out how you get three jobs out of one, very hard to find that type of job which pays so much much in Corner Brook, and the surrounding area! If you take 400 of those jobs out of the economy, there will be a difference!!

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      Shawn
      - June 26, 2012 at 11:17:58

      Really Matt? Others right here in this thread say they are paying below industry standard and have job vacancies open for months. Now, if those jobs were worth 3 other local jobs, they would have been filled long ago. With that said, I used to work at that mill and I make quite a bit more now than I did then and so do alot of others here. The mill is not the cash cow to the area that it once was, and hasn't been for a long time now.

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    Squires
    - June 23, 2012 at 13:14:08

    Yes boy give them more of our tax money and joe will be gone in a year anyway,haha what a joke give the fisherman and the loggers some money as well

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    David
    - June 23, 2012 at 09:48:00

    If any of the Local 96 members who voted NO had an actual backbone, any accountability, or a shred of principle --- not just the cheap, empty rhetoric of union goons propped up on barstools at 2 am ---- they would do the honourable, forthright thing: resign their position, and let someone else do the job for the money offered. I don't really see how you could possibly stay put, knowing that everyone else in the mill thinks you're a louse. If you do stay put, and there is any kharma in this world, you'll get a good taste of how you treated all those innocent 'scabs' over the years.

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      Shawn
      - June 23, 2012 at 14:00:56

      The thing is David, what these electricians and the other tradesmen are missing(or maybe they are not) is the bigger picture. The bigger picture when it comes to reducing labor costs. The bigger picture that will see all tradesmen gone and all contractors preforming the tradesmen jobs as a part of cost cutting measures. In my opinion, most of those guys will be gone anyway so their votes, yes or no, will most likely have little effect on anything.

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      David
      - June 23, 2012 at 16:34:31

      1) They don't 'miss' a bigger picture. There is no bigger picture, not for them or for anyone else. Ther'es just your OWN picture...that's all that matters, and that's exactly why the whole rationale for unions is a complete sham. 2) This was not a " "we can do better" vote, or a "let's go on strike till we get what we want vote". This was clearly presented as a "take-it-or-leave-it" vote. There was no ambiguity, no misunderstanding, no possible way that anyone was under any illusion about the meaning or point of the vote. These guys chose to "leave it". So leave.

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      Kick A Kharma
      - June 23, 2012 at 19:11:36

      If there is any real kharma in the world David you'll come back as a pre fisheries union fisherman or fishplant worker and then you can work your miserable, negative, bitter little life out working for whatever the fish merchant chooses to give you.

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      Just...Sayin'
      - June 23, 2012 at 21:35:28

      Hey David, Incase you do not read the papers, the Mill has been posting for Journeymen Electricians for about a year or more. Guess how many have been hired. The mill cannot attact qualified tradespeople because thay pay below industry standard and have to live with an axe swinging above your head.

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      Just...Sayin'
      - June 24, 2012 at 09:32:45

      Hey David, Incase you do not read the papers, the Mill has been posting for Journeymen Electricians for about a year or more. Guess how many have been hired. The mill cannot attact qualified tradespeople because thay pay below industry standard and have to live with an axe swinging above your head.

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      a business man
      - June 24, 2012 at 18:43:04

      On the other hand,I think the electricians have it right. Think about it. They refuse the offer, then their jobs gets outsourced as contractors are brought in, then the get a large severance, and then they move on. It is actually a smart plan because these are tradesmen with skills, education and experience that are in demand. They WILL be able to find other lucrative work. They same cannot be said for unskilled uneducated labourers who are just unskilled and uneducated. So, in my view, the electricians made the smart move and did what was in their best interests. Even though I am anti-union, I have to say kudos to the electricians for putting their interests first. Hell, their interests would have been served in the plant closed, since they would get a severance and then could move on with their skills and education.

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      David
      - June 25, 2012 at 12:38:54

      Just Spoutin': Kruger posted those ads. Kruger also offered what they offered, and said take it or leave it. I'll bet Kruger knows more about it's needs and it's budget for filling them, and the 'value added for money spent' propostion than you do. And if you had one morsel of a grain of sense, you'd keep quiet and go back to sleep.

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      Roger
      - June 27, 2012 at 01:45:00

      @David Nice answer , you must be a politician. Obviously Kruger posted the adds just sayings point is that nobody is answering them... Ever here of supply and demand? So Kruger can make a take it or leave it offer but the fact is he didn't. He advised we take the offer but when did he say take it or leave it? A union can also call someone's bluff as well. Anyways have a good day and please lower your facist overtones. Citizens are what make s the world go around not corporations. I'm sure you'll be inline for a hand out from govt.

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